foam?

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Jim Kloss
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foam?

Post by Jim Kloss » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:28 am

I've located a persistent leak at the aft edge of the daggerboard trunk. I have limited access to it through a hatch I added in the galley area but there's not enough room to do a fiberglass repair. Just stuffing a towel in the space slows the leak considerably.

Thinking about filling the area with foam. I have some 2-part flotation foam but it expands very aggressively, and I'd have trouble getting it into position. I could use the aerosol insulating foams available everywhere but I'm not sure of its water resistance and the label says "not for structural marine use." I don't think I'd consider this "structural", but .....

Anybody have experience to share?


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Re: foam?

Post by Jim Kloss » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:28 am

FYI - didn't work

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Re: foam?

Post by Jeffrey » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 am

Hi Jim, I think you will have to cut out a portion of the floor...there maybe lead weight in the area as well. Good luck...Jeff
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Re: foam?

Post by Sam Buschell III » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:47 am

Maybe you can pull the lift keel and stop the leak from inside the trunk.

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Re: foam?

Post by FEVER » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 pm

Before this thread moves away from 'foam', let me add a comment. I would suggest that any foam introduced into your boat be
of the "closed cell" type to prevent it becoming water logged.

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Re: foam?

Post by Jim Kloss » Wed May 01, 2019 9:31 am

Unfortunately, Jeff was right. Cutaway revealed lead ballast with no access to dagger board trunk. Not sure what I'll do next.

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Re: foam?

Post by Jeffrey » Wed May 01, 2019 2:23 pm

I have never seen a picture of what it looks like under the floor, but if you cut a way enough floor, can you also cut out the weight, do the repair and replace it all again? Jeff
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Re: foam?

Post by Jim Kloss » Fri May 03, 2019 4:24 pm

I'll post a photo if anyone can tell me how to do it; I seem to recall that there's a trick to it.

Jim

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Re: foam?

Post by FEVER » Fri May 03, 2019 5:14 pm

Jim's comment about the internal ballast adjacent to his leak got me thinking:

Is there any chance that the weight and it's location relative the board trunk and/or
the position of trailer bunks has, or can cause a leak to develop as a boat is pulled over
rough roads at highway speeds? I recall that some much smaller and lighter one design
boats either hang the boats by their guntles or support the entire hull on the trailer.
The San Juan 21s that are pulled long distances seem to leak at the front end of their
swing keel trunk, also.

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Re: foam?

Post by Pete » Mon May 13, 2019 7:08 pm

My suspicion is that S2, given it's reputation for over building, likely laid up a very large amount of fiberglass around the base of the trunk. I think if I were doing this I'd pull the board, clean up the inside of the trunk and look for any weeping. I'd also be very tempted to remove some of the layup looking for a crack or a fault. I bet you could remove 1/4" of material and lay in some new glass.
This assumes you've absolutely eliminated any other possible source.

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